ename144
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- Sep 20, 2018
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Hang on, who said anything about this being "acceptable?"You seem to think that using someone, without their knowledge or against their will, is acceptable. Let's start there. Is it ok for Quinn and Riona to use Sage? I say no. It's never acceptable to use someone like an object just to satisfy your goals. In the past you've argued for Maya, Josy and now Quinn and Riona to use someone so do you think that that is acceptable?
In this way I hope to break down this argument, and the problem I have with the points that you are arguing on this forum, we can argue the other points later.
So what is it? Yes or no, is it OK for Riona and Quinn to use Sage like this?
You've been saying Riona is trying to undermine Sage. I was saying she's using Sage as cover and thus considers her expendable if necessary. Neither stance has any bearing on whether or not her behavior is proper; it's obviously not. The question was about why she was behaving that way and what she hoped to accomplish.
I think it's bad to mislead a friend (or at least someone who considers you a friend) to get some personal benefit that you conceal from said friend. It's one of the many things I dislike about Quinn, and one of the smaller lists of things I dislike about Riona. But I also consider it a trivial offense in comparison to the whole 'pimp and and drug dealer' thing, so I don't see why it matters much either way.
No. Quinn meant she would use Sage's connections to set up a party with the rich preps, giving Quinn access to a new market that would solve her financial woes. It failed because Quinn is a terrible criminal, but that was the goal.Lol Quinn literally tells Riona "We use Sage". I'm not sure if you've noticed but one of the main plot points on the HOT's side has been Quinn undermining Sage's authority as President by doing all that shady/illegal things right under her nose. Heather blaming Sage for the disastrous party at the Preps place is exactly what Quinn meant by "use". Sage gets the blame even though Quinn is the one who convinced Sage to go along with it in the first place, though only due to necessity.
Undermining Sage is a side effect of Quinn's scheme, not the goal. It's actually a bad thing for Quinn because it will eventually mean Sage is no longer there to use as a figurehead and people will pay more attention to Quinn's shady deals. But again, Quinn is really bad at her job, so she doesn't realize how difficult she's made things for Sage. Not that it would have stopped her if she had, because Quinn is an asshole.